hour zone, that breaks the previous record and they said the judge set that amount based on the estimated wealth of the accused. he makes $20 million. jamie: he can be -- he can afford it. be careful, don't drive so fast. bill: have a great weekend. jamie: you, too, bye bye. >> mornings i'm jane skin e., along with jon scott, live at the federal courthouse in detroit where the man charged with the christmas day terror attempt will face a judge for the first time. what would possibly be this guy's defense? jon: it's winter but extreme cold reaches even into the deep south and that's causing loads of problems, as another storm moves into the northeast. we'll tell you what your weekend looks like. jane: we'll tell you surveillance video of two guys trying to rob a store when they come across somebody they didn't expect to see, a nine-year-old girl, the daughter of the owner of the store, you can

see them dragging her across the floor by her hair. police would love it if you could help them find these guys. expwron jon -- jon: a fox news alert into jobless numbers from the labor department show the unemployment rate stayed steady at 10 percent in december, even as those shed another 85,000 jobs, that's more than analysts expected. what do the numbers say about a recovery? let's ask jenna lee from the fox business network. >> hi jon, hi everybody, the numbers you mentioned are from the month of december but every time we get a monthly report we get revisions to the previous month's as well, and there's something very important we have to pay attention to, the month of november, where we thought that we had lost 11,000 jobs, where we actually gained 4000 jobs in the month of november. not a huge amount, but that's the first time we've seen job growth in two years. throughout this entire recession. so that's an important trend. yes, we do have about half a million americans filing for unemployment every week, but just a little bit of job creation is like a sudden

split in the storm before the clouds come back in again and that's what we saw in the month of ds, just the clouds coming back, because 85,000 positions were shed in the month of december, and again, we're seeing very similar trends in this employment picture as we have seen all along in this recession. a lot of the job losses in the sectors like construction and manufacturing. and that's really affecting the way that the unemployed, those of our friends and family that are unemployed, how that actually looks. i want to show you more trends that we're seeing, one including what we're seeing in gender. if you take a look at unemployment f. you're a man or woman, the unemployment rate is way higher if you're a man. this gap has closed but it's definitely higher if you're a man, at 10.2%, than if you're a woman at 8.2%. also, education is a factor here, we're seeing very different pictures eswell, those are a college education have an unemployment rate of under 5 percent, those without a college education have an unemployment rate above 10 percent.

again, you can kind of tie back some of those trends to the fact that the jobs lost are in manufacturing, in construction. again, a lot of those jobs are filled mostly by men, so you see that trend in gender and sometimes you can see it in education as well, jon, but again, not exactly what we were expecting for this month and a little bit of a disappointment on wall street. want to mention one thing coming up in the next few hours, though, the president announced earlier, we've heard reports about this, of clean technology jobs. he's putting more money of the stimulus funds towards growth in that sector. clean technology manufacturing. it would backfill the losses a little. we'll hear details about that in a few hours, and the labor secretary told fox business earlier this morning the president continues to look at with congress a new jobs package. again, more money put towards job growth in this country. jon: jenna lee, we'll check in with you a bit, thanks. jane: the man accused of trying to blow up that plane bound for detroit on christmas day will be in

court. abdulmutallab will make his first appearance before a judge. he's accused of trying to attempt to set off an explosion and bring that plane down. it had almost 300 people on it as it was preparing to land at the airport in detroit. steve rand is at the they're detroit. one of the big questions is will the government offer him a plea deal to try to get information out of him. >> well, that is what the white house national security adviser, john brennan, has been saying, that that would be, in fact, the case. there are published reports in the associated press and other outlets by the local federal prosecutor, chief federal prosecutor, barbara boyd, that that hasn't happened yet. one additional note, we understand that abdulmutallab is inside the federal courthouse at this hour. a few minutes ago a van came up into the facility, and we understand that he was on board. we are working to confirm that but we understand that he is inside at this hour. jane: steve, there's a brand

new u.s. attorney, federal prosecutor there, she obviously is going to be under an amazing amount of scrutiny because this case is going to be tried in civilian court. i know she's been asked, is she ready. >> she appears to. she did a round robin with a bunch of inter -- a bunch of ber views with a bunch of local television stations, we've had a chance to see those and she looks very relaxed and ready to try this case. have a listen. >> charging people with crimes is a serious thing, so we understand that we're under a lot of scrutiny but we know the rules, we work hard to come ply with them and we'll do that. >> and she has spent the last nine years working in the national security unit out of the eastern district office here in detroit, so she has quite a bit of background, received several recognition awards under the bush administration, and interestingly enough, has also been a democratic activist here in the state of michigan. so a bipartisan approach, if you will, as she enters into this new job. jane: steve, there was some word there may be

demonstrations outside of the courthouse. have you seen anything, what do you know about that? >> yeah, interestingly enough, we think that about an hour before the 2:00 a rainment, there will be a demonstration. we were just handed a bunch of these pamphlets by a woman coming around, organizing this, not in the name of islam. these are proamerican muslims, arab americans, who want to make it known they do not approve of what abdulmutallab is accused of, what al-qaeda is about, and that they, do --, too are america and want to make their voices heard today on the national stage because there are a lot of international outlets here today, today. jane: steve brown, i know you'll let us know as soon as you hear anything else or see anything else, thanks. jon: less than 24 hours after president baum declares war on al-qaeda, the feds arrest two men linked to a terror plot, a joint terrorism force arrested both suspects in queens, new york. earlier they raided at least one of their apartments, seizing the suspect's passport as part of an

ongoing investigation of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction, both suspects allegedly traveled to pakistan with this man, najibullah zazi, in 2008, that's where the feds say zazi attended an al-qaeda training camp and learned how to make bombs intending to attack new york city. zazi is the shuttle bus driver from denver, charged in connection with the new york city plot. he has already pleaded not guilty. in brooklyn, new york, david, what can you tell us about the arrest? >> we expect in a few hours, there is going to be an arraignment in the federal courthouse behind me. at this hour, we do not know what charges the two men do face. they have been identified as adis medujanin and czar ain ahmedzay and the circumstances surrounding medunjanin's arrest are intriguing. he was under fbi surveillance at the time he was taken into custody and apparently he was perhaps

trying to flee those fbi agents in his car as he was in the vicinity of the white stone bridge in queens, new york, when he hit another vehicle. he then got out of his car and he tried to flee on foot. that is when he was apprehended. he was taken to a hospital, and he is now in the custody of authorities facing charges. again, we do not know precisely what these charges are. we do know that the authorities have seized the passports of both of these men, both of these individuals, john, very interestingly, lived in the very same neighborhood in queens, as najibullah zazi. as you mentioned, this is key here, both of them allegedly traveled with zazi in 2008 to pakistan. whether or not they're going to be charged with terror-related activities, that's not entirely clear. we have heard that it is possible one of the men could be charged with lying to authorities, potentially giving fams statements to fbi agents. the other charge may be more serious. we should learn more in the next few hours.

jon? jon: given the fact there was some surveillance underway here, was there an indication that these arrests were coming? >> well, the attorney for me did dunjanin said he was absolutely shocked his client was arrested, in fact he heard about it through news reports. he said last september when this investigation led to the arrest of zazi, his client had been interrogated for 14 hours, and he believed that the matter was over and done with. so the question remains why now, why have these two men in the last 12 hours been taken into custody and as you mentioned during the introduction to this report, perhaps it has something to do with the remarks yesterday by president president obama saying there's a war on al-qaeda, but exactly why now perhaps we will learn more about that too in the next few hours. jon? >> jon: david lee miller outside the brooklyn courthouse, thanks. jane: want to get to the breaking news desk, harris is watching something at logan airport in boston.

>> it was critical enough to shut down the entire airport but i'm just now getting a late word now it was temporarily shut down, the faa shows that it is open now, with some pretty lengthy delays. take a look at this picture out of boston logan international airport where a plane was evacuated after smoke was reported inside the cabin. this was a delta connector flight, a commuter flight, and it stopped on runway 33l. you'll notice that's like the only runway that got plowed there, because they got a lot of bad weather, as we're getting hit badly in the east with cold and ice and snow as everybody is, and that's part of the reason the runway was shut down. they didn't have a lot of options, passengers backed off that flight because of a light haze or smoke in the cabin. no injuries reported in this, and we're still trying to clarify if the plane got off the ground, because it either got off the ground and returned or the takeoff was aborted. we know the 28 passengers on board evacuated safely. this situation out of boston logan is one we're watching

down here in the newsroom. jane? >> jane: harris, thanks. jon: you see what it looked like in boston, the weather is making news all over the country this morning, from pileups on icy roads to bone chilling cold. janice dean has all the details from the extreme weather center. also a new twist in the case of that missing utah mother who disappeared last month, susan powell still has not been found. this latest news, though, has to do with her husband, who is, police say, the only person of interest in this case.

jane: the u.s. marshal service has confirmed that the nigerian suspect in the christmas day attempted terror attack has now arrived at the courthouse in detroit for a hearing, set to begin in a few hours. we're told that he was driven in a dark chevy suburban, they went to an underground area of the courthouse and it was led

about police cars and flashing light the. as soon as we get a picture in the newsroom, we'll bring it to you. ears going to be hearing the charges against him dark the most serious, carries up to life in prison, the attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction. he of course is the one accused of having explosives in his under aware. we will continue to bring you more as we get it. jon most of the country feeling the deep freeze, in some places the temperature is measured in negative numbers, in the south, drivers in atlanta faced an icy commute this morning. this 27-car pipe july being blamed on the freezing temperatures and very slick roads. how long is this cold spell going to last? let's ask janice dean in the fox weather center. even my lips are frozen. >> that's fine, it's friday. let's warm things up, then. jon: you go, girl!

>> we could actually see snow in florida, jon scott, this weekend. jon: snow? holy cow. >> a chance of flurries. it's not going to have a blanket of snow across the sunshine state but they could see flurries in the forecast. that's how cold it is. let's take a look at the current temperatures across portions of the upper plains, midwest, minneapolis, these are current air temperatures, not the wind chill, two in kansas city, 13 mem physical, 18 in dallas. really incredible cold. that jetstream has dipped as far south as key west. looking at your wind chill, this is what it feels like if you're outside and you really don't want to be outside across portions of the bizmark, minneapolis, zoo falls, you get the -- sioux falls, you get the picture. we're going to feel as cold as far south as florida, these are be -- will be the coldest temperatures so far this season. so sunday morning lows, 27, 28, daytona in tampa. so we have a cold front

around the sunshine states. if you get temperatures in the 20s we most certainly will see flurries in orlando, florida. how cold is it? freeze watch, temperatures overnight, 35 degrees f we're going to see a chance of flurries, it will probably be before noon tomorrow, probably mixed in with sleet and or freezing rain. so things are going to be difficult if you're driving. thanks goodness, it's a weekend and people are not commuting to work. taking a look at the satellite radar, the system across the northeast and the front associated with it pushing across northern portions of florida, and again central portions of florida could get a few chilly rain drops. that could turn into snow overnight tonight. pretty amazing. we will warm up, though, next week. but i can't promise it's going to last forever. jon: we will look forward to that. being from chicago, jane is not even cold, she's not even bothered by the temperatures. >> she's a hardly lady. jane: i call jon the woosy,

the girlyman, all the time. jon: it just happens during commercial break. happy! see you later. jane: you may have noticed this in your community, traffic lights are replaced by led bulbs. they give off less energy but the downside is they don't give off enough heat so when they get covered in ice, it doesn't melt, and that causes traffic nightmares in some areas. let's get to evanston where peter doocy has been ensuring -- enduring cold and ice in the last couple of days. >> just a little. the light emitting diodes sound like a treatment come true to cities and towns looking to save money in the long term because they use 90 percent less energy in the incan decemberent bulbs which savings energy and the state of wisconsin recently switched about 90 percent of the traffic signal that is they control over to led, a savings of $750,000 a year for them.

say what you will about the old fashioned incandescent traffic signals but they got hot, hot enough to melt snow. these new led light, they just don't get hot because they don't use a lot of energy, and when it snows on them, it doesn't melt, which is a nightmare for drivers. you can't tell what the signal is. and in blizzards, several times accidents have been caused, including at least one fatality, because drivers get to an intersection looking for red, yellow or green and they see white and don't know what to do. >> so what are the cities doing about t. then, the ones who already have the lights installed? >> well, a handle of cities that have full-weather lights in evanston are looking at things like heating elements, a device that goes on to the traffic signal and when there's snow blocking the light they turn it on, but that costs money not just for the extra hardware but also for the energy to run the device, and also here in evanston where they have had a few problems, when their high tech lights get covered, the solution is low-tech, they literally wipe it off with

their hand but that requires manpower which also costs money, so what we're finding is that a lot of times the money saved on energy is actually being spent on trying to keep these things clean to keep motorists safe. jane? jane: i think he's not far from the sherman diner, where he is warm up. jon: spend a lot of time there? jane: i went to college there. good, juicy cheese burgers ansunday morning. jon: president obama announced security and intelligence changes in the wake of that christmas day terror attempt over detroit. here's what plenty of americans are asking. is it enough to keep us safe. al-qaeda likes to change strategy. how do you stay a step ahead of the terrorists? we'll get into that next. eeee

jane: now the case of the missor mother in utah, susan powell, her husband, joshua, is the only person of interest in this case, according to police. reportedly now he's trying to sell their family home. susan's family says that josh decided to move with their kids to washington state after spending the holiday with relatives there. susan is 28, she has not been seen since the seventh of december, that is when her husband said he took their two little boys camping. there were a lot of questions because the conditions were very cold that night and he is said to have left after midnight, but again, no rest in this case, she is still missing. jon: president obama is ordering more security and improved intelligence analysis in the wake of the christmas day terror attempt on that northwest airlines flight. that includes training more air marshals, using better technology to detect explosives at airports, and about a dozen other changes to try to fix the terror watch list and distribute intelligence faster. is it enough to prevent a determined enemy from striking?

let's ask steve pomerand, former fbi director and when the president says he ordered intelligence agencies to do a better job of intelligence sharing, steve, sounds great. can it work? >> sure it can work. i'm not sure the problem here was in the sharing. it seems the information was passed around. i think the problem here is no one took ownership. they kept passing it around, but it seems like no one took action. and i think that was more the problem here. but certainly, we can do better. i think the emphasis is in the right place when you talk about improving your intelligence collection, the analysis, the dissemination, and the taking action on your intelligence. that's putting the emphasis in the right place. look, jon, we can do this to its maximum capability and still not be able to prevent 100 percent of these attacks coming our way. that's an unrealistic expectation. we don't get it anywhere

else in life, but we think that things are going to work to perfection. so we can do so much, and only so much. but there's definitely room for improvement, jon, no question. jon: years ago, you had basically two agencies who handled this kind of thing, you had the cia and the fbi. now we've got all of these extra layers that are supposed to enhance our intelligence sharing ability because cia and fbi were never very good at it. but you got to wonder, does adding more layers actually maybe contribute to the problem here? >> you know, jon, that's a very good point. and by the way, i'm not so sure the fbi and cia were not good at it. they weren't good enough at it. but -- gloon jon -- jon: that was always the accusation, you know that. >> that was always the accusation, absolutely, but i'm not sure the answer was creating yet additional layers of bureaucracy to solve the problem as opposed to making the fbi and the cia just do a better job. and i think again you saw that here, saw this proliferation of agencies with overlapping missions

and it may not be the answer. soy certainly hope that in regard to this later incident, that what we don't do is what government is sometimes prone to do, and create more bureaucracy in an appearance of doing something to improve the situation, but actually, having the opposite effect. jon: one of the things he said, he's going to begin assigning direct responsibility to these spy agents for following up on -- agencies for following up on high-level threats. they weren't doing that already? >> well, i think in this instance, this is what i alluded to. i don't think anybody took ownership and said what are we going to do about this. and i think that that was a failure in this instance. i would hope that that's not an indication of their actions normally. but certainly in this case, that appeared to be what happened. we've had lots of other incidents, i want to point out to you, since 9/11 where action was taken appropriately and promptly and incidents were prevented, but it doesn't seem to be what happened in this case.

jon: you say that terrorists are not all that smart, and that we can beat them. it does seem like there was an awful lot of luck that went into stopping this christmas day thing. >> yeah, you know, one of the problems, jon, is every time we succeed, we hear about the luck, and when we fail, nobody blames bad luck but there is always an element of chance. but you make your own luck in this business. you follow all your leads, you collect all your intelligence, you analyze it properly, and you do the right things, and you create your own luck. and again, in this case, there was certainly an element of that that operated here. but you can't certainly depend on that all the time. jon: let's hope we create a lot of that luck for years to come. steve, thank you. jane: airports are rolling out new security measures, some european countries

giving the go ahead to full body scanning machines. you've seen these. those scanners are also creating a ruckus.

jane: airports around the world have been beefing up security, france saying it will use full body scanners at some airports initially for passengers headed to the united states, other european countries have also installed these machines, however, not everybody is happy about the use of these

greg halcot will bring us town speed and what the reaction is. >> we've been doing our survey around the european cont tent and found pretty fast response for a region not always on its feet. let's start with am der stam's airport, under which abdulmutallab transited on his way to detroit on christmas day. they have had 15 full body scanners in place, but they tell us that they're on a trial basis, it's voluntary, they're only for european flights, not for transit passengers, so, in fact, abdulmutallab did not use one of those devices. but they tell us that within two weeks, they will be used for all passengers heading to the united states from amsterdam, 60 more are on order. in the u.k., british authorities tell us london's heathrow, which receives a large amount of u.s.-bound flights will have full-body scanners. for those passengers, french

officials say there will be one scanner in place at charles de gaulle airport by the end of the month. they're looking at explosive detection devices and the greater use of patdowns. jane: but not everybody supports this new technology, right? >> absolutely. you can expect it from europe, there is a lot of talking on a lot of different fronts, germany, spain, belgium reportedly are questioning the effectiveness of full body scanners. they say they're doing enough, they want european-wide regulations, health concerns, even from civil rights groups, complaints about the full body scanners being an invasion of privacy. but in fact in the past couple of days, jane, u.s. officials have been blanketing the european capitols, trying to get everybody on board and we have heard from the head of the department of homeland security, janet napolitano, she said she will be coming to europe, to spain, at the end of the month to really get the momentum going in the direction the u.s.

wants. >> greg palkot in london, thanks. jon: the wife of the bomber who killed the seven cia employees says she's proud of her husband. stephanie barok said sher husband was prompted by hate for the united states, outraged by the wars in afghanistan and iraq. the man was a doctor u.s. intelligence identified as a double agent after the attack. the cia attack is expected to be high on the agenda for secretary clinton's meeting with the ortainan foreign minister this morning. molly hennenberg live at the state department with more on that. what did the secretary say? >> hi jon, she didn't mention the attack on the cia in afghanistan specifically by name in her prepared remarks. the double signature who killed seven americans and one jordanian intelligence official, right off the top of the remarks she referenced the event the, she appeared to after

meeting with the prime minister. she said the extremists must be met with, quote, unwavering resolve and said this apparently about the attack. other -- >> i express both our condolence for the loss of life that was unfortunately both americans and jordanian s, and i expressed appreciation for jordan's commitment to come batting violent extremism. >> the ortainan foreign minister judah said jordan will not waiver be -- or be deterred in fighting terrorists wherever they are, and he said jordan's presence in afghanistan will be increased and enhanced in the coming days, both to help the afghan people fight terrorism but also to defend jordan's national interest. jon: on a separate interest what is the white house asking of the state department as far as the christmas day bomber investigation? >> right. president obama is asking

the state department to look over its criteria for issuing visas to come to the u.s. and also its criteria for revoking to visa, to try to find out how the christmas day bomber, abdulmutallab, was able to get a visa and get on that flight to the u.s. jon: molly hennenberg, live for us at the state department, thanks. jane: a lot of debate over health care reform but most of the -- one of the most contentious issues is funding for abortion. the house bill contains an outright ban on any subsidies. the senate version is a little more lenient, but allows states to ban abortion coverage, states themselves. jim angle explains it to us. this is a tough balancing ability since people on both sides of the aisle have very strong beliefs and -- beliefs and long-held beliefs. >> that's right, jane, it's tougher than many issues because beliefs on abortion are so strongly held.

the house bill barely passed even after congressman bart stupak got tough language restricting federal dollars from abortion. when that gave her 40 votes, still she only won by five. the question now is what middle ground any new deal between the house and senate could find that wouldn't lose votes on one side other the other, either antiabortion or abortion rights forces. pennsylvania democrat jason altmeyer is one that voted for the stupak amendment. >> on abortion, the house bill is much stronger, it prohibits abortion funds not only within the public programs but for any insurer who wants to participate in the public program. >> now, the senate also has language as you mentioned, but it is looser, so this is a very delicate balancing act, jane. jane: what are the possibilities, jim, the senate would actually accept this language, the stupak amendment, and that the two

sides would get together on? >> it seems easy but it didn't work out, some democrats worry the senate would not go for the same language because it same up for a vote in the senate and failed, as the a texas democrat explains. >> it was 35-54, so we know what can be done and what cannot be done in the senate. so the question is can we come up with other language that will be acceptable to uphold the status quo. >> the status quo meaning no taxpayer dollars, funding abortion services in any way, jane. jane: where do we go from here, where do you see it going from here, jim, if the senate doesn't go for the stupak language, how many who supported that in the house would be willing to support a final bill that didn't have those strict protections? >> well, some, it appears, but not all, of centrist -- a centrist democratic analyst put it this way. >> not all of them are going to be stupak or bust. a lot of the folkies are --

they wanted to see, make sure there was an expansion of abortion coverage, and they'd thirdly be willing to take a compromise. >> some house members might take something less stringent than stupak in order to get health care reform which is important to a lot of people kesly but kessler think of the 40 stupak democrats that voted for the bill, ten or more would hold out for the original language. if that is the case, jane, this would be a very difficult compromise to strike. jane: jim is watching it for us, in d.c., jim, thank you. jon: an update now on that commuter plane evacuated at boston's logan airport. harris faulkner is on it from the breaking news desk. >> we've got brand new pictures in from boston. these are closer shots of that plane, because before all we had was an empty runway, now we see that delta plane on its way to columbus, it had a strange odor and haze inside the cabin. what we know now is that was

from deicing fluid, the faa confirming that for us and the 25 passengers and three crew members were evacuated, de planed safely. they did make it all the way to runway 33l before they were turned around, so they never actually took off in all of this, the takeoff was aborted, everybody is safe. the entire airport was shut down for a while, though, and what we're looking at now came in just a few seconds ago. i thought this was interesting, too. they are now re-deicing the plane and you've been seeing this because the weather is poor along the east coast, it's very cold, temperatures hovering below freezing and they've got precip falling, so with that they want to make sure the planes are safe. they're deicing. but nobody is on the plane now, we saw them take the people and luage off. the passengers were sent to terminal a at boston logan, no incidents here, but the airport was shut down -- shut down for 18 minutes, it's back up and running with a few delays. back to you. jon: harris, thanks. >> sure.

jon: fox news is on the job hunt and in this economy, small businesses are really reaching for ways to drum up sales. never mind the traditional store. in many circumstances, they are turning to carts and kiosks. take a look at this. transactions at kiosks topped $600 billion in 2008. when the numbers are in for 2009, the total is expected to surpass $775 billion, and by 2013, business might reach $1.6 trillion. at the little shops. live at the mall in miami, in this economy, is this a good time to start your own business? >> sure, jon. look, it is a matter of perspective. you can either live in the spirit of fear or hope, and i'm telling you, in this economy, there are a lot more people who are saying i have hope. we're talking about kiosks. you have to look at this now. in this specific economy, i'm told by some analysts that, look, in this economy,

specifically, if you're looking to start a new business, a kiosk, maybe a push cart, you can strike better deals now in malls, in shopping centers. you can do that, because they have space to fill. moving over this way, joining me is joy palmis, you run the kiosk program at this mall. what are you seeing? >> i'm seeing much pickup in the business. we started with plenty of new voice mail, people interested in starting a new business. >> were you surprised by this? we're talking about jobs in america. for the average guy or gal who's coming in and has that spirit of wanting to be an entrepreneur, what do you tell them when it comes to the kiosks? >> it's a great opportunity to get into the retail world with minimum exposure and low overhead, and they have the retail traffic set up by the national retailers right here for them, and it's a great opportunity. >> you know, also, people may think that you can just about anything in a kiosk but in your mall i've seen a

little of everything, you sell really jewelry to bras to caviar, which is great when you're shopping, but you don't allow just anything in the mall. >> that's correct. you don't allow anything in the mall. every mall has different policies and procedures. we do have a leasing committee that approves and reviews everything that comes into the mall. >> very good. thank you so much, jordan. >> no problem. >> again, what you're looking at here, chris, this is great, jon, caviar, a kiosk for caviar. you can find this here at this mall, and again, you can find just about anything, and you know what, when you start your own business, is there a risk? of course. but you know what, you're your own boss and in this economy, i found out from talking with other people, some people are taking that plunge, taking their 401(k) or savings, they're out of work, some people are talking about taking that plunge. it's not a bad deal to consider, jon. jon: i'm selling jane's cookies at a kiosk. she just doesn't know it yet. jane: more expensive than

caviar. jon: orlando, thank you. for more information on this story and other reports, go to fox news.com, find out -- click on where it says on the job hunt. jane: investigators want to find these two guys. they're seen on this surveillance video robbing a store and dragging the nine-year-old daughter of the store's owner by her hair, holding a gun to the little girl's head as she comes out of the bathroom here. police are going to be with us next. can you help?

jane: had a frightening story out of oklahoma city, police hunting for two men on a crime spree, they're believed to be behind at least four armed robberies. take a look at this surveillance video of one of the holdups. as the men enter the cell phone store, you can see in the middle of that circle a nine-year-old is innocently coming out of the bathroom to hear what the reduction sus about, she sees these guys attacking her dad, the owner of the store. next thing she knows, one of the gunmen reaches for her hair and pulls her across the floor, dragging her by her hair. then he ends up putting a gun to her head. jennifer wardlo is the oklahoma city police department and we're going to play that videotape for viewers so they can see exactly what they did. explain to me what you were able to see from this tape. >> from what we saw, we saw these two armed men enter the cell phone business, they immediately approached the owner of the business,

they assault him and as we've seen in the video, ultimately they end up assaulting his nineor nine-year-old daughter as she exits the restroom. >> i can't imagine how terrifying it is for the little girl to have a gun to her head. is she okay? >> fortunately in this case there were no serious injuries reported. obviously this could have turned out in a lot different manner. so fortunately, they are okay. jane: it sounds like they got away with at least a laptop and some money. and they have been involved in other robberies as well? >> yes. right now, our robbery investigators believe that they are involved in four, possibly five, robberies in and around the oklahoma city metro area. jane: the resolution on this videotape, this is actually video from one of the robberies at a dollar store. the resolution on this video is pretty high from these cameras. any clue necessary there that people should be looking for to help you find them? >> well, the thing that we noticed that was very

specific was in these two videos, the robbers appeared to be wearing the same clothing. one of the individuals is actually wearing a hooded sweatshirt that has the nike -- the word nike written across the front, we believe that that's distinctive and somebody will recognize that and be able to contact police so we can identify and locate these individuals. jane: have you gotten any leads so far? >> right now, we just put this out to our local media yesterday and we're hopeful that tips are going to begin coming in through our crime stoppers' tipline. obviously callers can remain anonymous and also get a cash reward, so hopefully that will be something to encourage people to call in on this. jane: one last question, was that nine-year-old girl helpful to identifying features on these guy? >> our investigators did speak with the victim. obviously, that is how we come up with the suspect description. we do try to get any possible information from the people involved to provide the public with a

complete description to try to identify these guys. jane: jennifer wardlo with is the oklahoma city police department. thank you. >> thank you. jon: let's hope they get those guys. a prosecutor successfully put the shoe bomber, richard reid, behind bars. will they have that kind of success with the underwear bomber? in about two hours, the suspect accused of trying to blow up a a detroit-bound plane where a bomb in his pants will appear in court. he arrived at the federal courthouse an hour ago, he's been locked up at a prison about 50 miles southwest of detroit until now.

jon: this just into the fox news room, take a look, haw thorn, california, a little southwest of lax airport, we understand that a big rig

has somehow gone into a cravass or maybe a sinkhole. it's described as a sinkhole but looks more like a roadside sort of canyon, it's about 50 feet down, we're told, apparently left that highway there where you see the fire trucks and rescue vehicles parked. these helicopter shots coming into us from our friends kabc and for that we thank them but there as you zoom in, you can see this thing is quite a mess, all happening in haw thorn, california. we're told one person is trapped, presumably the driver of this rig, a tractor trailer rig, stuck in a pretty nasty situation in haw thorn, california. we'll update you as the rescue continues. jane: the old saying, made in the u.s.a., does it mean anything after all? some america companies are bucking the trend, instead of moving companies to say mexico, they're keeping them on american soil and betting on workers to make it a better product.

we go to steve in mexico city. >> jane, with all the manufacturing jobs moving from the united states to mexico, it wasn't easy to find a group of people finding to do something different, making a bowling ball into theo in the united states. >> made in mexico t. used to be made in the u.s.a. brunswick bowling said the only way to compete was to move to mexico. leaving empty the plant they had been making bowling balls in since 1906. a few in michigan decided to buck the trend. scott wilbur made cores for the balls. when they left for brunswick, he stayed behind and bet his life's savings he could build a better bowling ball in the united states. >> i don't believe their response to competition is to move offshore and put people out of work here in america. i think the right response was to try to do better engineering. >> with computer-generated specs and patented graphics,

sales of the bowling balls have gone from a few hundred to several thousand a month. the nonunion employees share in the profits each quarter. >> gene, you've also got a sense in that factory, where many factories have been abandoned or shuttered, something not in very large supply in michigan, optimism. jane? >> jane: nice to see. steve harris in mexico city for us, thanks. jon: there are new jobless numbers out just this morning, the labor department reporting 85,000 americans lost their jobs in december, the unemployment rate still stands at 10 percent. these numbers are the -- worse than what analysts were expecting. we're likely to hear more about this from the president later today when he makes a statement about efforts to stimulate the job market. let's talk about it with paul jageau, editor of the "wall street journal," host of the editorial report that runs weekends on fox. there were economists who thought we would actually add jobs this time around,

right? >> they did and the november results were revised up a bit, 10,000 increase, i think, so that's a smidgen of good news, but this is a disappointing report because we thought fourth quarter growth was going to be pretty good in gdp terms, but of course, for the individuals who have lost their jobs, not so good. >> 85,000 jobs, especially in december, you don't want to lose your job right before a holiday. what's going to turn this around, when is it going to turn around? >> businesses are just very, very cautious, particularly small businesses because they see costs potentially going up with the health care bill, with taxes down the line so, they're very cautious. they're looking to see momentum building in the economy. i think it's going to be a slow growth. i think we're going to get growth later, but it's going to be a very -- a relatively slow pace. jon meantime productive has gone up because if workers do have a job, they're taking on more tasks, saying i'll do more, i don't want to lose my job. >> those productivity result versus to show up in labor.

if you're growing, you can't only -- you can only squeeze so much out in productivity. so ultimately, you have to as a business that's growing add workers. but they're trying to put that off, employers are, for as long as they possibly can, because of the uncertainty about the economy and about what's coming out of washington. jon: the president apparently is going to be talking about pushing for more green energy jobs. he thinks that that is a bright spot potentially in the u.s. economy. what do you snng. >> i mean, ultimately, he's talking about government-engineered jobs, government-promoted jobs. that's not how you really grow an economy long term. you've got to have that private economy vibrant again, and i think what he's talking about is at the margin, it's not going to make that much of -- much of a difference. >> paul, thank you. you can watch paul's editorial report on saturdays, 2:00 p.m. on fox news channel. jane: right now in detroit, michigan, the man accused of trying to bring down the northwest jet on christmas day is in a federal courthouse awaiting his

arraignment, being tried in civilian court which you probably know as caused a whole lot of controversy. in just a couple of minutes we're going to be talking to the man who put richard reid, the guy known as the shoe bomber, behind bars. and what can prosecutors learn from that case?

jane: the world is watching right now as the suspected terrorist behind the christmas day attack faces the american justice system. take a live look at the michigan courthouse where umar farouk abdulmutallab will be arraigned today for trying to kill about 300 people on board that northwest jet. critics say he should not be given the same rights as the citizens, he should be this the military system. joins us now, richard reid, convicted of trying to blow up a

plane using the same explosives found on abdulmutallab, but reid had them hidden in his shoe. former u.s. attorney for massachusetts mike sullivan joins us now. thanks for being here. when we look at the pair parallels here, the shoe bomber was tried in civilian court. but you didn't, as i understand it, have a choice at that time of putting him in a military tribunal, is that right? >> no, we really didn't. the military tribunals had only been established a few weeks prior to richard reid's flight being diverted to logan international airport, so there was no internal discussion or debate about a proper venge. the -- venue. the tools just weren't there, it was new in exercising the broad discretion that the government had in terms of treating international security threats. jane: so when we look at this case and the parallels, you know, some people have drawn between the two, you put richard reid away for life in a super

max prison in colorado, it's where he's sitting at this very moment. do you agree that civilian court is the way to go for abdulmutallab? >> well, i don't have all the facts. certainly i'm hopeful that the administration has exhausted the internal discussion in terms of the best venue. and one of the considerations has to be intelligence gathering. not simply gathering evidence to bolster a criminal investigation in a criminal case, but the value of intelligence going forward to best protect the american public in our interests both here and aprod. so that de-- abroad. so that debate has to be fully had within the administration. i'm confident had richard reid's plane landed at logan international airport in december 2003 versus 2001, we would have had that discussion and made a determination within the administration as to whether or not holding richard reid as,

under the powers of the president in terms of an enemy combatant would have been better serving the american public. jane: so would there be, basically, a guarantee or as close as you can get to it that we could have gotten more information out of these suspected terrorists if you put them in the military system? >> i think from terms of intelligence gathering, and this is to provide protection going forward as opposed to gathering evidence, there's no question the advantage is treating somebody as an enemy combatant enhances the opportunities in the area of intelligence gathering. you know, once they come into the civilian system, the ability to get the intelligence is thwarted often times because of their exercise of certain rights. jane: so, mike, what's the thinking here? you know the justice department well, what's the advantage of having this guy today, abdulmutallab, in the civilian system, the federal system? >> well, from an intelligence perspective, i can't imagine there are any advantages. unless there's the opportunity

and the consideration with regard to his cooperation with the government. there's no indication that that's happening, certainly under the law of war principles the president has the ability to identify him as an enemy combatant. under those circumstances i think in almost every circumstance there would have been enhanced opportunities for intelligence bathering. the only men benefit, i suppose, is the potential certainty of punishment. obviously, richard reid is in prison for the rest of his life. however, there was lost opportunities from an intelligence-gathering perspective looking forward. from a criminal prosecution perspective, we used all the tools in terms of looking back in bolstering the evidence against richard reid. so intelligence fartherrering has -- gathering has to be part of the discussion from a national security perspective in light of the war on terrorism. jane: mike, what's the possibility of getting some of that intelligence out of a plea deal they may cut with this guy?

what would be the incentive for him? he was willing to blow himself up on an airplane. >> well, and that's, obviously, the challenge. most of these fanatics that are essentially becoming part of the enemy of the united states through the al-qaeda organization have no interest in cooperating with the united states government. in fact, you know, people like richard reid and abdulmutallab, they want to announce their hostility towards our country, our government and our people almost as a badge of honor for themselves. so cooperation is unlikely, you know, based on our historical experiences dealing with the terrorists. in light of that, it becomes even more important to try to gather as much intelligence. to the window of intelligence gathering is oftentimes a very short window as you're looking forward and identifying the breadth of the organization and the depth and the breadth of the plot against our country in our

interests. so, you know, hopefully this debate and dialogue is happening within the administration as the president determines who is going to be identified as an enemy combat pant. -- combatant. you know, the courts essentially have recognized the president's power under these circumstances. we are in a war, he is an enemy combatant, he fits the description, and he could be held during the course of the war on terrorism. and interrogated and possibly would learn a lot more about how large in the plans of the organization of al-qaeda here in 2010. jane: mike sullivan is the one who put the shoe bomber, richard reid, away for life. mike, thanks. jon: so what about the other side? it will be a civilian case. who's the lawyer defending alabama lab? abdulmutallab? where well, her name is miriam seer. a taxpayer-funded office of about 20 employees who are

appointed to represent individuals who can't afford a lawyer. in 2003 she took the case of karim cubridi convicted in do it on federal terrorism charges. a federal judge threw out the convictions because prosecutors withheld key evidence. in 1995siefer defended james nichols, the brother of oklahoma city brother terry nick -- nichols. defense lawyers saying defending abdulmutallab will be much more complicated. jane: right now we're awaiting arrangement of two men suspected of a bomb plot in new york city. one of the men actually got into an accident, a car accident, apparently, after leaving investigators searching his apartment. he was treated at a hospital for minor injuries. these men are believed to be

acquainted with the man accused of master minding this alleged plot to attack the mass transit system in new york city. he was arrested back in september in colorado, and he has pleaded not to guilty to the charges against him. jon: just this to the fox newsroom, we were telling you about that big rig that's in some trouble in southern california. harris faulkner has the update. harris harris man, oh, man, this guy is down a canyon 50 feet or more, jon, and as i've been listening to the fox affiliate news chopper, they are working to free this guy but also working on him. get this, there's a new problem. there's a small fuel leak from the big rig, so now it's a work against time. in addition to whatever they're dealing with his injuries, they've got to get him out of there pretty quickly. l.a. county fire and rescue are on the scene along with the police trying to extricate this driver right now. we don't know what led this big rig to go down this canyon, some

sort of an accident. they've opinion working on him by the way, for over 50, that's 5-0 minutes. this is rolling hills estates off of north palos verdes drive. i'll stay on it and let you know the update. back to you guys. jon: harris, thanks. jane: a lot of the nation has been seeing this brutally cold weather this week, the coldest we've seen in some 20 years or so. parts of the south are certainly taking a hit as you may have seen. in alabama black ice, some difficult driving conditions it's creating there. other parts of the country are also getting a pounding. let's get to rick leventhal, he's in new york. how cold are you? >> you know, right now it's about near 30 degrees, jane. jane: balmy. >> it's not all that unusual for new york at this time of year, but it's the areas that aren't accustomed to this kind of cold that face the biggest dangers. for example, the texas/mexico

border near freezing, officials have warned residents reminding them to dress warmly and try and stay dry. including mississippi, tennessee and arkansas in the teens and the 20s. that's created some very icy and treacherous road conditions. drivers are having all sorts of problems. and snow fell in alabama and georgia can, and that created a real issue near atlanta's airport where there was a pile-up of nearly 30 cars just before dawn this morning. a number of drivers were hurt, fortunately no one killed in that wreck, but the roads are just awful, and people having a tough time navigating. jane sounds like roads are bad up north and there's a fair amount of snow, that lake effect snow. >> that's for sure, and the temperatures brutally cold to the north. in fact, in north dakota they're seeing subzero temperatures as low as 20 below zero and the wind chill in the 50s below zero in north dakota. minneapolis has seen snow and

freezing cold and icy conditions there with temperatures in the single digits and subzero temperatures. there are disabled cars littering highways, a lot of drivers losing control on the slick roads. you mentioned the snow. a lot of snow in the cleveland area and across pennsylvania and ohio they'd seeing at least 6 inches. cleveland looking for another foot by saturday, and that's kept can schools closed and also created a lot of problems on the roads. so, obviously, the best advise, if you don't have to go out, don't do it. if you do, please, be careful. jane jane rick, thanks a lot. jon: there's a problem at a walmart, harris faulkner's on it. harris: pictures just coming in now that we're working to bring you from lawrence, indianapolis. i've tried reaching out to the police to find out whether or not they are any closer to catching at least two suspects that they're still looking for. they have one suspect in custody. i'll tell you what happened, a shooting inside this walmart,

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jane: a routine traffic stop has led to a police abuse investigation. take a look at this video, it's sparking this investigation of four officers in springfield, massachusetts. it was shot by a witness. it shows officers repeatedly beating a suspect, one officer said to be using his metal flash

light. police say melvin jones was carrying illegal drugs and he resisted arrest. this is after the attack he's being treated for fractured bones and a partially blind eye, he says, from this incident. one of the officers has been in trouble before, his name is jeffrey asher. he was suspended for six months without pay back in 1997. he has pleaded not guilty to the suspect in this case who was beaten has pleaded not guilt to the charges. jon: let's get you back to the breaking news desk, that walmart on lockdown after a possible bank robbery. harris faulkner's on it. harris: reports of around local elementary school on lockdown as well as they try to track down at least two more suspects in what that ply we've awz -- believe was a bank robbery. you can see some of the customers now, that's kind of the focus because there were many customers who were inside the store, and they just simply tried to run as shots were fired

inside that walmart. they are trying to clear the area of all those people now and set up some kind of a perimeter, but it's a challenge because that parking lot is full of people. this was a crowded store, so as they work to do that, the blessing in all of this is that we haven't heard of any reports of injuries after those shots reportedly were fired inside this walmart in lawrence, indianapolis, suburban indianapolis. this is the pendleton pike 10000 block of the pendleton pike. and you see lots of response from emergency vehicles, police and sheriff's departments as well and, obviously, the local media there. i will let you know when they track down the at least two suspects. they do, reportedly, have at least one guy in custody can. back to you, jon. jon: harris, thank you. president obama is expected to outline a proposal today after those new job numbers came out this morning. those numbers not all that good.

the labor department reporting that 85,000 jobs were lost in december, more than analysts expected. the unemployment rate in the country remains at 10%, and the number of unemployed persons which also was unchanged stands at 15.3 million. millions of jobless americans might not be finding work anytime soon. let's talk about it with james irvin live in washington. break down some of these other numbers for us, james. it wasn't all bad news, but mostly not all, huh? >> yeah, mostly bad news. i mean, for one thing, jon, the revised figures show the economy actually created 4,000 jobs in november, that's the first gain we've seen in almost two years, but on balance, as you say, the news out of the labor department this morning is as chilling as today's wintry weather here in the capital. we'll start with the underemployment rate, this includes the unemployed, those part-time workers seeking full-time work and discouraged workers who have more or less begin up looking for work. that total figure, often seen as

a more reliable gauge, now stands at 17.3%, that's up .1% over november and hovering around the 15-year high. 2009, of course, is now fully on the books and we now know the economy as a whole slashed 4.2 million jobs, the average unemployment rate for the movement was 9.3%. contrast that with 2008's 5.8%, almost four percentage points lower and the 4.6% jobless rate for 2007 overall, jon, the u.s. economy has lost more than eight million jobs since this great recession began two years ago. jon: so how can we expect the president and his aides to try to spin these numbers as all presidents and their aides do? >> well, the president as you mentioned earlier is going to be speaking about two-and-a-half hours from now there the east room. he's going to outline a plan to create, quote, tens of thousands of new so-called green technology jobs using stimulus funds. already this morning we've heard

from christina romer, she blogged on the white house web site that we are seeing, and i quote now, a gradual market stabilization. the unemployment rate remains urn acceptably high, but as the president has said, the road to recovery will not be a straight line adding the employment and unemployment numbers are volatile and subject to substantial revision. therefore, she said, it is important not to read too much into any one report, positive or negative. romer also distributed this chart showing the number of jobs cut last year dwindling from 691,000 in the first quarter to just 69,000 s cucut in the fourth quarter. they say that represents progress. still, republican house minority leader john boehner casts these new figures as more evidence of what he called the obama administration's quote, job-killing policies and wasteful spending. jon: james, thank you. >> thank you. jon: what do you think? is the president's $800 billion job stimulus working? go to foxbusiness.com, click on

the link for you decide. there you can cast your vote in our unscientific poll. we've gotten more than 13,000 votes so far, 97% of the respondents say this stimulus simply not working. jane: we're still watching this breaking news out of southern california, out of l.a. county. this truck, as you see, is about 50 feet down in this canyon. harris is watching it, the driver is still trapped. they're trying to get him out of there. he's got some injuries, we're told, we're not sure how severe at this point. also authorities are telling us there's a small fuel leak as well, we'll be right back with more. anncr vo: with the new geico glovebox app...

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>> as you may have heard, there's a rumor floating around we were canceled. i heard it coming in this morning on the radio. so far nobody's said anything to

me, but if we did get canceled, maybe give us time to do some traveling. >> that would be wonderful. >> in fact, i understand fox is beautiful this time of year. [cheers and applause] jane: jay leno taking some jabs at nbc as reports are swirling about this late-night shakeup. he's only been on the other slot for a few months now, but it's being reported that conan o'brien could be pushed out, jay could move in, or they both could be on back to back. jon: we'll see. jenna lee has more. >> the temperature is nice in the studio, it feels pretty good. this is about two things, it's about eyeballs and dollar signs, those are your two components that are part of this story. i want to start with viewership, the eyeballs, first. i want to take a look at how jay's show has been done as he mentioned on the air. about five million tune in to the jay leno show every night at 10:00 eastern time. for regular drama, an nbc drama

in that time slot, they got about two million more viewers, and on competing networks they actually see double the amount that jay leno normally gets. so when it comes to viewership, this is really a problem. not necessarily for nbc can universal, the parent nbc because they say this is about what they were expecting, but for the affiliates, for your local nbc station, for your local newscast at 11:00 this is a real problem because fewer viewers on the show ahead of that 11:00 news really effects your local news, ad spending there. so there's been a lot of pressure from the affiliates to get nbc universal to do something to change this up. now, nbc universal might not be so eager to do that because i want to show you the dollar signs. it costs about $100 million a year to produce this show rt. for a regular drama, that's about $300 million. it could buy you a week of the jay leno show or one, one-hour

drama. so you can see why nbc universal might not be so eager to change this because it's cheaper for them to put on the air. now, nbc universal has been sold to comcast, the largest operator in the united states, for about $30 billion. it's not a completely done deal, so nbc-u is still officially owned by general electric at this time. it's still a very small portion of ge's profits, about 16%, so farce -- as far as an effect for the stock market, you're not seeing that, but it's interesting to see when you break it down that way there might be a bit of a problem, at least on the local side for the nbc-u, they like what they're getting for the money. jon: when i worked over there the annual stock report for ge would come out with nbc right between toasters and small appliances. [laughter] jenna: it's a big conglomerate.

jane: remember when jon was on that late night show? he was so funny. [laughter] look at you now. jon: that's because i'm working with you. jenna: wow. jane: what a drag. thanks, jenna. president obama has said the u.s. is at war against al-qaeda, those were his words. the obama white house generated a lot of headlines when it dropped the bush administration's phrase war on terror. does the president's latest, do his words reflect a change in tone? wfair and balanced debought --e debate is on the way. it's delicious. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. [ robert ] we created legalzoom to help people start their business and launch their dreams. go to legalzoom.com today and make your business dream a reality. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side.

jon: president obama did not mince words when addressing the threat the u.s. faces in the fight against a global terrorist network. here's the president in response to the review of intelligence failures in the wake of the failed christmas day bombing. >> while passions and politics can often obscure the hard work before us, let's be clear about what this moment demands. we are at war. we are at war against

al-qaeda. jon: those words seem to mark a change in tone from an administration that stopped using the phrase the, war on terror. so what's behind the change? joining us, matt shrapp, a former white house directer to george w. bush, and fox news contributor susan estrich who managed the presidential campaign of michael dukakis. what gives here, susan? we weren't having a war on terror for the first year of this administration, now all of a sudden we seem to have a war on al-qaeda. why? >> well, i think the president is angry, and he's right to be angry. at these failures of intelligence. and i think what he's trying to do is shake up the bureaucracy. i don't think he's any more or less determined than he was a week ago. i really don't think tone is ultimately the issue. but the challenge he faces, and i think president bush also faced, is how do you sit on top

of two, three huge bureaucracies that deal with intelligence and get them to do the work of connecting the dots and making the country safe? jon. jon: jon cynics would say, though, matt, that the president was sort of reading the tea leaves, hearing the public anger about all of the dots that were not connected here and decided to come out with a strong statement because people are demanding that. >> well, first, i just want to say, jon, i really applaud the president. a year into his presidency to acknowledge we're at war and we're at war with a foe, i think a quote from his own speech, that's bent on our destruction. jon: well, the bah times today was maybe not so charitable, they said, glad you finally noticed. >> here's the problem, if you think about it a little further, my problem is not what he's calling the war -- which he now acknowledges -- it's the fact that he has the staff of harvard law school fighting this war. jon: meaning what? >> meaning we're forgetting that

we are fighting against a foe, enemy combatants, that want to destroy us. instead we seem to be hell bent on treating these terrorists like common criminals who need lawyers, who need miranda rights, who need a glass of water, maybe a latte, maybe tuck-down service in their room. >> oh, come on. >> we need to get real about this war, and it's not going to stop, and it's going to come at us in every way we can. jon: susan, it seems like these days not much happens in politics or a place like the white house without poll testing, trying a phrase out and seeing how people respond to it. do you think that that's what this white house did? with that particular phrase, war on al-qaeda? >> no. i think the president is just toughening his language because the circumstances call for tough language. and as i say, because he is trying to shake this bureaucracy and try to figure out how to get people to work together.

i have to say on behalf of harvard law graduates everywhere the last time i checked, we were not running the war on terror, nor were we condemning it. and i think really the issue is is there more we can be doing? are there civil liberties concerns? tell us. i think most of us are willing to, you know, compromise where compromise is needed, but i think part of the problem here is, you know, you've got fragments of intelligence in different places, and it's not a civil liberties concern, it's a bureaucratic and intelligence concern of how you get those dots connected. jon: but, matt, your thinking is if there hadn't been this attempted christmas day bombing, we wouldn't be at war with al-qaeda? >> yeah. i mean, i don't know if we would have seen the president acknowledge the fact and embrace the fact that we're at war with terrorists. let's face it, we're at war with radical jihadists, and we're trying to find a way to describe that war without making it seem like we're fighting against a religious entity or group of

people. but the fact is we are at war with jihadists, it's a horrible thing to have to try to contemplate. once again, i applaud the president for getting there, but if this was the plot of a movie, you wouldn't have believed it. we tried to take away his visa, when he landed we expected to ask him tough questions, when were we going to ask him those tough questions? were we going to show up with a lawyer? i mean, if i were watching a movie, i would say in the post-9/11 world, this isn't believable. jon: matt and susan, thank you. >> thank you. jane: a new study shows home-groan terrorist cases are -- home-grown terrorist cases are also on the rise. lauren green has been looking into this for us. >> hey, jane. home-grown terror is a reality as in the case of the fort hood mass murder, and recently five american men from northern

virginia arrested in pakistan, supposedly on their way to join the taliban in afghanistan. the duke university and university of north carolina study showed that since neive 139 american muslims motivated by extremism have been identified for either planning or carrying out violent attacks. the shocker? 41 of the cases were in 2009. that's a nearly 600% increase from the year before. all but one of those were muslim males under the age of 30. despite the spike, researchers believe that the threat of terrorism is exaggerated. >> well, a lot of that data is because of the somali community which from minneapolis where 20 young men went to join a movement in somalia and that accounts for a lot of the data. but there's no doubt there's a spike in 2009. i just think it's a little too early to tell if that is an aberration or a trend. >> but terrorism experts say the

numbers speak for themselves, and it is clear there is a rise of home-grown radical islam. >> between the beginning of 2009 until the end of the year, we had one case of terror, attempted terror or successful terror in months which means that the jihadists are growing in numbers, and their perception is that we are growing weaker. that's why they attack. >> now, duke researchers stress the muslim community here in the u.s. is playing a significant role in preventing the growth of radical islam. they're building strong social networks, getting involved in non-violent political activities and trying to police themselves before something happens again. jane? jane: lauren green in our newsroom. lauren, thank you. jon: you been outside lately? the wicked spell of cold weather continues to hammer much of the nation. you folks in hawaii, we don't want to hear about it. wind chills are reaching 30, 40, up to 50 below in the northern

plains, and the freeze is even reaching the deep south. in atlanta drivers had to pay attention to black ice on the road. big pileup down there. janice dean is following this brutal cold weather, she's live in the fox weather center. >> you know, jon, it's colder in florida than it is in parts of alaska right now. really incredible temperatures. we've got this arctic cold front that has stretched as far south as key west. let's take a look at the current temperatures, and you can see how cold it is. 2 in minneapolis -- hi, jon scott, are we still looking at you? jon: why not? >> i was going to kiss him in the double box. [laughter] let's see what it feels like, minus 11 is what it feels like. it's a cuddle-up forecast, so stay indoors. minus 8 in rapid city, what it feels like in kansas city, minus 12. so you get the picture, it's

cold. cold enough for maybe even some snow across florida. this is where the coldest air right now is, minus 15 is what it feels like in des moines, minus 36 and with those winds what snow is on the ground could cause some terrible visibility problems over the roadways across the northern plains. tonight's lows over the southeast, extremely chilly. 17 in atlanta, 21 in tallahassee. look at orlando, 27 degrees. so the cold air is going to be in place. i want to show you our future cast. we've got this frontal boundary along central florida, so we're going to see the moisture. will we see snow? 6 a.m. on saturday see that pink? that is an indication it's going to be cold enough for some frozen precipitation either freezing rain, speed, and/or snow flurries. we'll take a look at that. and the temperatures incredibly cold. we're going to certainly break some cold records this weekend. tallahassee, florida, saturday,

sunday, monday teens and 20s. so we're going to watch those crops across florida. now, in terms of satellite radar, got the storm system that is exiting the northeast, but that frontal boundary that could bring a little bit of precipitation, maybe some wet snow flurries across florida this weekend, we will be watching. can we do a double box with jon scott? jane: trying to heat things up, isn't she? jon: this way, this way. oh, oh! yes, thank you. jane: you know, i should be insulted. [laughter] she's trying to steal him right out from underneath me. >> we can share. jon: thank you, janice. jane: is there enough to go around? we should point out if he did this, there'd be a lawsuit, but janice can get away with anything. harris is really closely watching the situation in southern california. this is a big rig that has fallen into a canyon. we're told it's about 50 feet or so. the driver of this truck they're trying, you can see, to get him out of there. those guys in the yellow jackets, the fire department has

been on the scene from the very beginning, desperately trying to extricate this guy from the cab of this. waiting to hear, also, what type of injuries he must have. harris is working details, she'll have more after the break.

jane: john mccain speaks out about the u.s.' approach to terrorism, and a new poll shows who americans believe is the leader of the republican party right now. it is quite interesting. we'll get you a look at that. also the president will be

speaking about the economy as the white house tries to get the focus back on to jobs and somewhat way from this discussion of terrorism and how we're handing it. all that coming up today on "the live desk." heir real quickly, i'm harris faulkner watching that scene out in southern california where a braver somehow or -- driver somehow or another went rolling down a 50-foot canyon, ended up with the whole thing broken in half. he's now, i understand, trapped underneath that fuel tank. we know it's leaking, they're trying to plug the leak and get him out. this has now been well over an hour. there are now more emergency workers in the hole with him. that's changed. also what's new is they've brought out a gurney at the top of the screen. that could be good news. like i said, they're working on him. we don't know what kind of injuries he sustained as the truck went barreling down the canyon and broke into pieces. you get all this debris that starts to fill up the hole too. now we're watching them try to

extricate this guy out of the hole. jane and jon? jane: harris, thanks very much. want to take you directly to the white house where press secretary robert gibbs is just about to step, we're tolding, to the microphones there, and as soon as he does, we will take you back there live. want to get now to a terrifying robbery in california as three gunmen hold up an insurance office. it is all caught on videotape. it took place not only in broad daylight, but just down the road from a police station in haw thorntion california. the crooks ordered everybody to drop to the floor. about 30 people were in the office, everybody was ordered to hand over their money and valuables at gunpoint. this all took about three minutes before the gunmen took off. the police station was less than a minute away, but these guys were gone by the time the police arrived. they would like to get them in custody. jon: governor arnold schwarzenegger will unveil his latest budget proposal for the

next fiscal year, he's asking washington to help him spend more money. >> will receive a $500 million jobs package that we estimate could train up to 140,000 workers and help create 100,000 jobs. jon: california is in the hole for some $20 billion. anita vogel live from los angeles with more. how much money is the governor asking for from washington, anita, and is it going to be enough to help the budget in that state? >> yeah, good question, jon. the governor is asking for $8 billion in the form of a credit from the federal government. he says this is money the state pays every year to washington for things like border protection, housing illegal immigrants in jail, medicare and medicaid programs. he says clearly this is money washington owes to california, and some economists believe the obama administration should not let california fall. listen. >> it's probably an analogy one could make that we are too big

to fail. does it mean that we may not have some difficulties that we need to the address ourselves? the failure of california would be a failure for the country. >>reporter: ross due value points out that california is the eighth largest economy in the world, and it provides 13% of the gross domestic product for the nation, so really the recovery of the nation actually depends on california, jon. jon: what about other states, though? i'm sure there are other states in pretty bad fiscal situations. can they get help from the federal government? >> well, right now there's only one other state asking for federal help, and that is new york. but certainly, you're right, there are many states facing huge budget holes. after california, new jersey faces the next largest budget crisis followed by new york, florida and illinois. now, as you mentioned up top earlier this week, governor schwarzenegger gave his state of the state address. he is proposing that $500

million jobs program. he says that could create about 100,000 new jobs here, but in decision to that and the money we might get from the federal government, california is still going to be in the red, and the governor says he has some very painful cuts to make in welfare programs and programs for the sick and elderly here in the state. and, jon, we're going to hear about those later today when the governor unveils his new budget. jon: all right, thanks very much, anita, live from los angeles. and we'll be right back.

jane: let's take you straight to the white house where robert gibbs is talk to reporters about the economy and these new jobs numbers today. take a listen. >> should be increased, absolutely. >> but, again, past the recovery

act that was passed last year, is there any this year for additional spending to boost the economy. >> again, jeff, i don't know if we throw it forward or remind you backwards, but again in december the president outlined some very specific examples of exactly what he'd like to see. today's program being one of those examples. investment in small businesses for additional hiring, infrastructure spending, things like that. so i think the president has been quite clear on that. look, we have, you know, today's, today's jobs report is, obviously, disappointing. 85,000 people last month lost their jobs. we are in a very tough economic environment. since this recession officially began more than two years ago, seven million jobs have been

lost. i honestly doubt, jeff, that had a report showed, you know, 40 or 20,000 or so jobs created, i can't imagine that the president would say, well, what i thought we should do in december is now wiped away because the jobs report. we've got a long way to go, and as we talked about this last month and i think if you look back as we've talked about it each month, we knew this was going to be a long road, and we knew that along that road there would be ups and downs and bumps along the way. i think if you look through and analyze some of the numbers, there are some bright spots which, i think, are at least encouraging, understanding that there are, as i said, millions

of people that have lost their jobs and are hurting. if you take the average of what we were losing in the first the quarter of 2009, january, february, and march, we were losing on average in those months 6 # 1,000 -- 691,000 jobs a month. if you take the average of what we're losing the last three months of the year, october, november, and december, that number is 69,000. one-tenth of that job loss. so that trend, obviously, is moving in the right direction. but again, if that number was above the ledger on the positive side, i doubt you'd find anybody in this administration -- because i doubt you'd find anybody in this country that believed our economic problems had vanished. >> is the president worried about gasoline getting close to $3 a gallon, how that will effect the economy? >> well, obviously, anything that is perceived or believed

that will do damage to our economy or choke off some positive trends in economic recovery would be concerning to the president, yes. jake? >> comments like -- [inaudible] say that they're worried that the economy's going to contract in the second half. how worried is president obama about that perception? >> i mean, again, i would say the president is worried about today and worried about the future. >> do you think it's likely? i mean, is he -- >> i, i would simply say the president wakes up concern canned every day about where this economy is, understands that millions are hurting whether they are in last month's job losses or the job losses stretching past those two year since this recession officially began. but understand, jake, people were hurting long before a board said there was a recession in this country. >> right. but, obviously, you plan

differently if you expect, you know, another contraction of the economy coming up as opposed to the line that we're on right now. >> well, but i also think the -- again, i refer you back to what the president talked about in december in not being satisfied with where we were and wanting to change the direction of that line. >> so he is preparing as if there was going to be a contraction? >> no, no, no. he's not an economic prognosticator. the president is concerned about the economy, concerned about the stories of people hurting that he has heard for many, many years. and he's working to do all that we can to create an environment for businesses, small and large, to hire more people. >> the administration this week announced that it was going to temporarily at least or for the time being suspend the transfer of detainees from began tan mow bay -- guantanamo bay to yemen. you did transfer six in

december. are you, do you know where those six are? >> i'm not going to get into -- i think christy asked these questions the other day, and i'm not going to get into discussing transfers. >> well, okay. given the need to talk to congress and get them on board with the transfer of prisoners to the thomson correctional center, do you have any realistic timetable as to when you think guantanamo can be closed? >> i think christy also asked that question. obviously, we'll work with congress in the upcoming session on many of the things that you talked about. not just retrofitting, but purchasing a prison in thomson as well as other issues relating to the movement of prisoners from guantanamo to thomson. >> one last question, i'm sorry. in recent days a member of the

leader of the league of the righteous in iraq, he was arrested by u.s. forces in 2007, he was responsible for an attack in karbala that killed five u.s. soldiers. the u.s. military's turned him over to the iraqis, and the iraqis have freed him as part of the reconciliation going on there. >> i -- jake, let me ask somebody to -- >> [inaudible] >> well, let me ask, let me get some information on that case. i don't have anything in front of me. >> well, the general question, is it appropriate for the u.s. military to turn -- >> craig, let me, let me -- other than what you've told me, i'm not overly familiar with the details -- >> it's a general principle. >> i don't want to, i don't want to generalize about something with which you've just asked me with great specificity. >> robert, republicans on the hill are saying they found evidence that under geithner's leadership the new york fed

pressured aig to conceal information about billions of dollars of the counterparty payments that were made with taxpayer money, and they're suggesting that he was hiding information from reaglators. -- regular lay force. i wonder, does the white house believe that secretary geithner should testify on the hill, turn other any documents he has to clear this up? >> ed, i'd point you to the treasury department. i'm sure you've already talked to them. secretary geithner was not involved in any of these e-mails. these decisions did not raise to his level at the fed. these are e-mails and decisions made by official thes at -- officials at an independent regulatory agency -- >> how do you know he wasn't involved? he was a leader of the new york fed. >> right, but he wasn't on the e-mails that have been talked about and wasn't party to the decision that was being made. >> republican congressman issa